Can I rank in Google without backlinks?

AndiLim

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In my personal point of view, I guess it will be hard for you to rank on google if you will not do linkbuilding. Remember the purpose of creating backlinks to your website is for it to be more visible in search engines and for you to drive traffic on it. If you won't create a backlinks it will be challenging for you to reach your target market since you will basically be focusing on the content that you will promote on your website. I understand the fact that creating backlinks for your website is pretty much challenging but if you are into good outcome then you'll need to create backlinks. :thumb:
 

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It is not bullshit at all. Links are the #1 ranking factor.

Judging by the rest of your message I'm guessing you meant to say...

This is bullshit to say we can get rank without links.
My main aim is to write that Links are very important factor to get ranking. I missed the word Without Links. Also you can read my complete post At least at last line. I wrote Yes Backlinks are very important.


Thanks

Everything you just said contradicted itself. Are you a walking oxymoron?
My way was may wrong but my main purpose is to explain how bakclinks are important in Ranking. So do not take it in wrong way.

Thanks
 

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I've been ranking okay in moderately competitive market (other people would say high if they want to advertise their service :p) and my DA and PA showed in Moz SE was 0/0. It's proven for me so i don't really check PA/DA often so i will just stick to the SEOQUAKE + AHREFS combo to check my campaign results.

For the performance i rely purely on the GWT.
 

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If you are going to respond to someone and be rude to them (as you often like to do for some reason) then at least explain yourself thoroughly when you tell them that they are wrong. Your answer, as you have written it, is very misleading to people and will leave them more confused than if they hadn't read it at all. That isn't very helpful for anyone. Why not just explain yourself thoroughly so that they understand why you are saying what you are saying?

I know what you mean. I guarantee the vast majority of people reading that post will have no idea what you mean. They will be befuddled.
I agree with PTTed and for replies without explanations like then it should be deleted from the thread.

Why do people insist on repeating such stupid crap? It does not matter if your content is 60 words, 600 words, or 6000 words.
No one knows you are right or not because you just show your personal opinion without showing any reasons why that..No one can trust that.
 

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As far as proof goes though since you two have decided to single me out even though you allow others to run wild saying stuff much, much worse than I ever have...

Here is an example I posted before about content length, or quality for that matter, really not being a factor.


https://www.webmastersun.com/threads/10511-Why-Google-loves-long-content?p=63574#post63574


There are tons of examples of webpages ranking really well without 300 words of content.

Here is an example.

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=pregnancy

Search the word "pregnancy", and pregnancy.com is ranking #1. There is no article on that page. It's ranking just fine.

There are tons of examples like this.
 

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Yes you can rank it Without Creating a Single Backlink but you have should focus on Onpage SEO and Killer Content around 600-700 words
Alex, that is kind of silly. If you are going to delete every reply that does not include some sort of evidence to back it up directly, you are going to have to delete about 90% of this section of the forum, including the post I was replying to.
The guy explained his position on the matter. He said a person a person needs to focus on on-page SEO and killer content around 600-700 words.

You obviously disagree with him, which is fine. But instead of saying you disagree and then explaining what your position was on why you disagreed, you simply called his opinion "stupid crap". WTF does that serve?

In all honesty, I didn't even want to bring this up. I did it because you are repeatedly rude to strangers and new members on the forum when they have not been rude to you at all. They are offering their opinions and they have a right to whether you agree with it or not. Feel free to disagree all you want. Just don't be rude about it. That's all.

And if you think we are being unfair somehow because some other member is routinely rude to members, feel free to point it out and/or report it. Nobody is trying to single you out. Nobody is trying to pick on you. I am just pointing out that you were rude again when you were asked not to be.
 

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I'm sorry, but just posting that you need "killer content around 600-700 words" is not explaining a position. It is regurgitating the same nonsense that gets posted over and over again on forums.

As an SEO I see everyday the damage that gets done by people spreading these sort of lies on forums and in their courses. I cannot tell you how many businesses I have encountered that have lost thousands of dollars because they hired what I would call a weekend warrior SEO who they thought knew what they were doing. Unfortunately, the "SEO" learned their craft by reading all the BS about SEO on forums like this one. Then they had the gall to actually take money from businesses to implement their poor excuse for ranking tactics. The result is always the same. The business can no longer be found in the SERPs.

Or there are the people who fail miserably at internet marketing but decide the next step is to become an "SEO". Nevermind the fact they never successfully ranked anything on their own. It's about the equivalent of me deciding tomorrow that I'm going to be a dentist and open a practice because I know how to brush my teeth.

Then there are the scam artists selling courses out there. I was just talking to someone the other day who has spent a few thousand dollars on courses that taught nonsense like anchor text diversity, keyword density, and content length.

So yes, I get a little passionate about how my profession has been dragged through the mud by countless scam artists and people who have no business calling themselves an "SEO". I might be blunt. I won't deny that. If some people take that as rude, oh well. It is never meant to be, and I never insult anyone.

I argue about the ideas posted and never make personal attacks (unlike a few of the moderators on this forum - not you).

My only intention is try to keep people from being led astray and to take a few minutes and think for themselves.
 

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Okay I just soft deleted the last two messages (PTTed, SEOPub)... As the quote was removed by the person in question and hence the last two messages served no purpose... You both know - so lets leave it at that lol... Again when things get heated up - stuff can be said that we regret... and clearly that is the case...
 

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I don't think it ever got heated....did it? Didn't seem so. At least not on my end.
 

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No need to do backlink, if you're posting user friendly contents in your posts regularly. At first always think, Is your content title matches consumer queries; if yes then how this body content will help them? Do research first, it's not mandatory content must be 500 or 1000 words can be more than 200 words based on topic. Mention relevant images, call to action, Sources if you got any info from other website and try to write content like top ten, lists, benefits, demerits but intention will be your targeted product & services.


Hope it will help you,

Thanks.
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Like many others on this thread - I totally disagree with this... Search engines are built on links... and at the very core its backlinks which matter...

The proof is really simple... Show me one website which has zero backlinks and is ranking in the top 3 search results for any reasonable competitive keyword... Surprise, surprise you wont find any...

Further for really competitive keywords - all the results in search rankings are clearly manipulated... To be blunt G's search index is in a total mess... They know that... The only thing which has changed in recent years is the level of complexity to get round G's algo....

Whilst anybody and everybody may think they can do SEO, the few in comparison that know what they are doing are killing it big time on the SERPs and dominating every niche... Again the proof is in front of everybody... Just spend a few hours analyzing the SERPs and you'll see... The truth always prevails for those who seek it...
 
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If you have max. number of traffics as compared to your competitors then you can rank in search engine result pages.

Actually the question is not perfect only backlink is not an issue of ranking as there are many parameters added.
 

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Where are you getting this traffic from??? Traffic is not a ranking factor... For example lets say you get lots of traffic from social media - this will not improve your rankings on search results...

If that was the case then it would be as simple as using paid ads to rank your website - and clearly that is not the case... I would appreciate it if your answers here have actual evidence to backup your claims...

Whilst there are various ranking factors - the primary factor is backlinks... Like I said show me one website with zero backlinks which is ranking on the search results in the top 3 for any given competitive term worth ranking for... Yes indeed you will find nothing...
 

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Dear Member elcidofaguy,

As l told you, backlink is not only an one factor for ranking in SERPs. There are other parameters also added. Like brand value, social media also helps for ranking.
Example; search keyword "handmade gift tags" and find the site etsy then, analyse the respected url about its links and social media value.
 

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You didn't answer my question with providing an example of a website which has zero backlinks and is ranking in the top 3 for any given competitive term... Also social media, branding are NOT ranking factors.

I checked etsy and as such they have 13,507 Root Domains Links 402k Total Links according to Moz open site explorer... Clearly they have a lot of backlinks.

Again you have zero evidence and now its becoming clear that you don't know what you are talking about... you even think Bangalore is a part of London ...
 

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In my experience, the answer is yes. BUT, (always a BUT) you need to compensate and have lots of good content on your blog. Target the content to keyword phrases and semantic phrases and it should work out. My experience also tells me that this tactic works for long tail keywords, not the more competitive phrases.

Good luck.
 

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Its the BUT - which is the big elephant sitting in the room and that is precisely why you need backlinks in order to rank for a specific keyword which is competitive and worthwhile the effort to doing so.

Any one can rank for long tail keywords - as SEOPub said on one of his posts something on the lines of "Big Pink Blue Elephant Balls" lol ... and how many people are searching for that?....

Until someone can show me a website which has zero backlinks and is ranking for a competitive term then its clear... Googles algorithm is primarily based on links whereby these are seen as votes for your site noting its a bigger vote when the site providing the link is trusted more... These days G is a lot better at detecting spam links which are either discounted or can have a negative effect...
 

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YES, you can rank in google without backlinks by following these methods:
1- Do social bookmarking on regular basis and post about your website on regular basis and enhance your friend circle.
2- Do business listing
3- Post comments on blogs.
4 - Participate in forums
5 - Participate in question answer sites to collect trusted links.
6- You can also hire an expert from SEOclerks.
Pretty much every thing you have described above relates to link building either directly or indirectly when you suggested hiring a SEO expert lol.... and since when was social bookmarking, business listings not a backlink? ... and how can you participate in a forum with expecting to increase your website rankings noting most backlinks are nofollow and your proposal is based on not even placing links... Is this some kind of voodoo magic??? .... and how do you collect trusted links, in your pocket?
 

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In my experience I have to say yes, you can rank in Google without backlinks. But maybe not on the first page and maybe not for long. All in all, if you write good content that others will use and backlink to you, then you don't have to go out and seek backlinks. It'll naturally come to you.
 

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Hi,

Well i would say yes, if your content is unique and impressive and you have atleast used on-page seo on it, then i would say you will get a good chance to be get noticed.
 

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Assuming that people who see it, share it - mention it on their own blogs and therefore create backlinks then yes. Again you need backlinks to rank for competitive keywords whether its direct or indirectly.. What you are describing is a white-hat method for rankings with the aim that folks will create backlinks over time..

The OP asked a very specific question: "Can I rank in Google without backlinks?" - which is different to "Can I rank in Google without creating backlinks".... For the latter you would have to pursue white-hat techniques which will encourage organic/natural backlinks from other people whom see your website/page... Methods such as writing a epic/detailed resource, infographs (with share code) are ways you can do that... but do note its not easy to achieve that....

Getting back to the OP's question...

I've said this a few times on this thread - "Show me a website which is ranking within the top 3 for a competitive keyword which has zero backlinks" and again... You wont find any...!!!

If people are going to insist that a website which has zero backlinks can rank for a competitive term - then prove it... Why would you believe something based on speculation and without proof?
 
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