Will home page backlinks help internal pages?

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Hi there, I have a wordpress blog about drop shipping business. I have many posts on it. I built backlinks for the home page and for the internal posts. my question is: should I have backlinks for the home page if I want to rank internal posts. will home page backlinks help rank internal posts or not.

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Hi there, I have a wordpress blog about drop shipping business. I have many posts on it. I built backlinks for the home page and for the internal posts. my question is: should I have backlinks for the home page if I want to rank internal posts. will home page backlinks help rank internal posts or not.

Thanks indeed
There is this thing called Link Juice (also known as Google PageRank) that flows around through the links on the web. It also flows inside of your website from one page to another one through your links. That Google PageRank can be used to tell Google that one page is more important than another page. Google assumes that a page with more of this PageRank is probably more important than a page with less of it. So you can tell Google which pages are more important simply by controlling which pages you point the most links at from inside your own site.

Do you understand what I am saying?

Basically, whatever pages on your site have the most links pointing to them will be the pages that Google thinks are more important. Those are the pages that will tend to rank the highest. There are other factors that enter into the equation, but PageRank is a very important factor.

So when you are creating links inside your own website, think about which pages you want to try to get to rank the highest. Then point more internal links at those pages and less internal links at pages you don't necessarily want to rank that high.

Your homepage usually acquires a lot of PageRank for two primary factors. Most websites have at least one link pointing to their homepage from every other page on the site. And, your homepage tends to be one of the most often linked to pages from other websites that link to you. Therefore, your homepage tends to build up more of this PageRank.

You can use that rank boosting PageRank from your homepage to boost other internal pages on your site. To do that you simply place a link from your homepage to those other pages you want to rank high. Also, when building links inside your own website, it is safe to use whatever anchor text you want to. Therefore you should take advantage of that opportunity to create keyword rich links to those pages.
 

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Thanks indeed for the appreciated detail. just one more question, how can I test the pr of internal post. for example when I am trying to test the pr of internal post, it (the testing tool) sends me to home page only.

Also how long it takes for a home page or internal page to go from pr 0 to 1 for example.
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You're welcome. Glad to help.

Google quit publishing PageRank values of pages some time ago. So you can't get an actual accurate measurement of PageRank from Google anymore. It seems they decided it wasn't in their best interest to be telling people how much PageRank their pages have.

The closest measurement you can get is something called Mozrank. That is a measurement similar to PageRank but not exactly the same thing as PageRank. You can check the Mozrank of a page using [URLnf="http://moonsy.com/mozrank/"]this tool[/URLnf].

Just so you know, MozRank tends to be substantially higher than actual PageRank in many cases. So, just because you see something with a MozRank of 5 or 6, don't assume that it really has a PageRank of 5 or 6. The actual PageRank value is probably more like a PR4. It seems that Moz counts too many spam links or untrusted links that Google would not be counting in the PageRank equation. That is why MozRank tends to run higher than real PageRank. But we can't really tell that accurately anymore since Google no longer publishes PageRank values. But, that is how it used to be when Google was still publishing those values. MozRank usually came in higher than PageRank.

Don't get overly hung up on trying to manipulate exactly how much PageRank or MozRank each page has. It isn't worth your time to get that detailed about it. The important part is to just understand the concept of how it works so that you know which pages on your website you should point more links at and which pages on your website you should point less links at. That is the main reason.

If you try to control your PageRank carefully, you will drive yourself crazy. Don't do that. It isn't worth that much time and effort.

How long does it take for a homepage or internal page to go from PR0 to PR1 for example?

As soon as Google indexes a new page, that page gets a PageRank value. On a scale of 0 to 10, a new page would start out with a PageRank of zero.

Then every time Google sees a new link (regular hyperlink that doesn't have rel="nofollow") pointing to that page's URL, then the PageRank of that page will increase immediately. How much it increases depends on how much PageRank the inbound link is passing.

Theoretically, any page on your website could increase from PR0 to PR1 or PR2 or PR3, etc... pretty much overnight. It all depends on the inbound links to that page and how much PageRank each page is passing.

If you got a link from a PR4 page and that page had zero other links on the page, then your page would probably become a PR3 page immediately. The reason why it would only be a PR3 instead of a PR4 is because a page only passes 85% of its PageRank through the links. 15% of the PageRank evaporates. That happens because of how Google's PageRank algorithm works.

In most cases you won't be able to get a PR4 link from a page with zero other links on it. Chances are that page will have 20 other links on it or more. So your page only gets approximately 1/20th of the PR4 that is being passed. So, in real life it takes a while for your site to build up enough links to move any pages up the PageRank scale.

It doesn't take long to go from PR0 to PR1 if you have at least 10 pages on your website and you do a lot of internal linking from page to page. You can achieve that very quickly (pretty much as soon as all those pages are indexed). But it is a lot harder and generally takes longer to go from PR1 to PR2. And even longer/harder to go from PR2 to PR3. And even longer and harder for each additional one point increase on the PageRank scale. That is why pages with lots of PageRank typically have a lot of link boosting power. PageRank is like "Google money" on the internet.
 

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Thank you so much. what a very helpful person you are! I am using your moz tool now. it is so helpful.

By the way, I tested my mozrank and the score for my home page is 4.51 - how good is that.
 

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That's great!

Here is how I look at MozRank though.

You can't really go by what MozRank says if the links you got to your website were kind of spammy. If you get spammy, easy to get links, like blog comments for example, even dofollow ones, then you can crank up your MozRank really easily. For example you could crank your MozRank up to 5 or 6 pretty easily. However your actual Google PageRank would probably only be PR1 or something close to that.

MozRank is a reasonably decent measure of PageRank only if you are getting links that would likely be counted by Google. For example, links from inside blog posts on decent blogs. Those are links that Google is going to count and so is Moz.

But you can easily inflate the MozRank of a site by getting a bunch of spammy links to the site. So if you have any spammy links at all, then your MozRank reading is much less accurate.

Keep that in mind.
 

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Thank you indeed. It seems like you are a very SEO expert. Do you have a tip of when your page goes from certain position to upward position in google. for example I have a post that reviews salehoo drop shipping directory. my post url goes in position 6th in google now. my question is - after how much time it will be in position 5 or 4. and so on. thanks.
 

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There is no way I can accurately tell you when your post will rank higher or lower. Sorry about that. It is not something you should even waste time worrying about.

Here are some things you can do if you want to rank higher:

1) First focus on creating the best page you possibly can for someone who is looking for legit reviews of salehoo. Compare your review to the other reviews that are listed on Google page 1. Is your review more thorough and more believable and more trustworthy and more useful than the other reviews or not? If your review isn't more thorough and more believable and more trustworthy and more useful than the other pages, then your "user experience" is not good enough. That means that if a person is searching for salehoo reviews on Google and they get to your page and the content isn't good enough, then that person is very likely to return back to Google and keep searching. That is really, really bad for your rankings. If people do that, then Google thinks "there is something wrong with the content on this page".
2) Follow excellent on-page SEO protocols like having your keywords in the title and scattered throughout the page. Embed multiple images on the page using descriptive alt tags and file names. Just do all the normal on-page things that every on-page SEO guide tells you to do.
3) Add more pages to your website that link back to your salehoo review page using contextually embedded keyword rich anchor text. Each one of these new pages should have an inbound link from some other website.
4) Try to get a couple higher PageRank higher Trustflow links pointing to your website.
5) Don't use spammy link building methods like "links at the bottom of forum posts" or "blog comments" or forum signature links or article directory links or sidebar links or footer links or hidden links, etc. Instead, spend your time finding just a few really good sources of really good links. Don't waste your time on the spammy stuff. If you insist on using spammy tactics, then don't send those spam links directly to your money site. Instead, launch a Web 2.0 blog that has one contextually embedded high quality natural looking link pointing to your money site. Then point those spammy links at your Web 2.0 blog. Never point them at a website that you want to rank higher in Google. Never.

Some people practice a business model called churn and burn where they spam the heck out of a crappy site they don't care about. It works for a matter of weeks or months depending on when Google runs another Penguin iteration and depending on other factors. But Google eventually discovers the spam and nukes the site in the search results. When Google nukes the site, the person just builds another site and does the same thing over again.

I have done that business model before and it sucks in my opinion. You get sick of it and it sucks the soul out of you. In my opinion you are far better off actually trying to build a high quality website with content on it that is as useful and as high quality as you can make it (within reason). Focusing on creating quality is much more rewarding (both personally and financially) in my experience.
 
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Nice said :D .... so, according to you, which is best link building method or where is best place to put backlinks to get best results for keywords on search engines?
 

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The best way to get links for a site depends on the situation. It depends on what kind of competition you are up against and what type of page you are trying to get ranked for what type of search. I rank commercial websites differently than I rank a blog and use different types of links depending on the situation. And it depends on how powerful the links need to be. The method you would use to get a link from a legitimate news reporter reporting for a well known brand name news source would be entirely different than if you only needed a link from low PageRank source.

There really are a hundred different variables that determine what your best link acquisition or link building method would be. If the site/page you are linking to sucks in terms of quality and value, then you are limited in terms of what methods you can use. If that is the case then you will have to manufacture the link yourself or resort to buying links. And if you are manufacturing links or buying links, then once again you have a huge variety of choices to choose from depending on what the situation calls for, how much effort you are willing to put into it, how long you want the links to last, how many total links you want to have, etc.

If the quality and usefulness of the page and website you are trying to get links for is high enough then you have a lot more possibilities to choose from.
 

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Definitely It helps. Give all internal links on home page atleast one time is a good idea if possible.
 
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